Paul Ryan Hosts Budget Meeting With House Freedom Caucus. It Didn't Go Well.

The meeting was "intense."
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Paul Ryan had an "intense" meeting with the House Freedom Caucus late Tuesday night to discuss the budget.
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WASHINGTON -- With the House Republican budget facing increasingly long odds, Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) met with more than 25 members of the Freedom Caucus late Tuesday to try to persuade the conservative group to support the 2017 spending plan.

Over beer, chips, soda and, according to one caucus member who asked to remain anonymous to discuss the private meeting, "all the normal kinds of bagged munchies that you’re not supposed to eat," Ryan hosted caucus members around a large conference table in his office to tell them that, if Republicans want to pass appropriations bills this year, they have to accept the budget number that leaders from both parties agreed to at the end of October.

"There’s not a snowball’s chance in hell that I’ll vote for that," caucus member Mo Brooks (R-Ala.) told The Huffington Post after the meeting.

Brooks wouldn't go into details about the meeting, but made clear he was unmoved by Ryan's arguments. Brooks said the government is on a fiscally unsustainable path, and Congress hasn't helped with Republicans and Democrats agreeing in October to raise the 2017 budget caps by $30 billion.

Brooks said Republicans have to get serious about debt-reduction. The deficit is increasing for the first time since 2009 and the Congressional Budget Office projects spending will outpace revenue by $1.4 trillion in 2026. 

"What we’re doing is like getting a squirt bottle and thinking that’s going to stop the Titanic from sinking," Brooks said.

"Paul Ryan has two choices," Brooks continued. "He can either support a financially responsible path that rises to the challenges that America faces, or not."

Freedom Caucus members spent roughly two hours urging Ryan to put forward a budget that reverts to the spending figure set under sequestration, the across-the-board spending cuts imposed in 2013. Two caucus members described the meeting as "intense."

Ryan, trying to find a way to work with Freedom Caucus members, floated the idea of future entitlement savings to make up for ballooning future deficits. Many caucus members said they want cuts now before they agree to future changes.

Ryan told caucus members that much of the blame for the country's growing deficits goes to President Barack Obama, who he met earlier in the day at the White House for a private lunch.

Individual caucus members didn't seem to buy Ryan's argument that Republicans are without options -- or blame. (Freedom Caucus members were careful to note they haven't reached an official position on the budget.) 

Meanwhile, GOP leaders earlier on Tuesday reaffirmed at a press conference that they plan to produce a full budget blueprint.

Budget Chairman Tom Price (R-Ga.) told HuffPost he was "absolutely" committed to adopting a budget this year. He said he and his committee were working on a document that would produce a balanced budget in 10 years.

Asked whether there was a chance Republicans go back on the October budget agreement to use the lower 2017 number, Price said budgets are "always a challenge" and that they were "working through that." Pressed on whether that meant it was possible Republicans would push for the lower 2017 number, Price reiterated his position. 

"These things are always a challenge," he said. "We'll figure it out."

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Jon Stewart, Rich Palmer, and John Feal.(01 of10)
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"I almost think when they [politicians] hold up 9/11 politically for themselves, I think they’re doing it in a way that disconnects it from human emotion somehow, and they do the same with the first responders -- somehow they think of it as a symbol, but not people." -- Jon Stewart (credit:Michael McAuliff)
John Feal, Jon Stewart, and Kenny Specht on Capitol Hill(02 of10)
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"I don’t have the depth of character that these guys have. As I said to one of the people down there, all I have is a camera and an inherent sense of dickishness. If that can be useful in any way, I’m honored that that monkey trick can get them some attention. But for the media, for the news, it shouldn’t just be about the monkey all the time." -- Jon Stewart (credit:Michael McAuliff)
John Feal and Jon Stewart at a rally.(03 of10)
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"What’s so peculiar is everything that occurs down there [in Congress] is symbolic of principle. You won’t find a person there without an American flag pin, or who hasn’t made some ceremonial pitch about 9/11 and the heroes and America and exceptionalism. But when it comes down to the individuals who make up that exceptionalism, they don’t have time for them. They’re not even interested in it." -- Jon Stewart (credit:Michael McAuliff)
Ray Pfeifer shows Jon Stewart his 9/11 memorial cards.(04 of10)
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Ray Pfeifer "makes his pitch and he doesn’t do it with bitterness. He should be above them [politicians]. So, that seeing him in some way prostrate before them... that’s the part that I think, to see him have to go to them -- a man of that real integrity and real stature and real courage and real principle -- to see him hat in had asking for something, that is what I think is so angering to me." -- Jon Stewart (credit:Michael McAuliff)
FDNY Deputy Chief Richard Alles with Jon Stewart and responders.(05 of10)
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"The fact that 19 people [the 9/11 hijackers] could create that kind of chaos and damage and destruction and death, can really make you feel as though, 'Oh shit, this is going down, this is about to unravel.' So the idea that hundreds, thousands, would rush towards that to help is the thing that brought balance to my world view again and perspective. I could step back and go, 'Right, we vastly outnumber these assholes. and the courageous amongst us, not everybody, but there’s a hell of a lot more than them'... Knowing that we had those people made it seem less tenuous, like we were less on the precipice. So to then have that very thing that was a bulwark against darkness and nihilism be treated callously, or cavalierly, is so galling." (credit:Michael McAuliff)
Jon Stewart with 9/11 responders.(06 of10)
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"I think if you said to those guys, 'Hey man, you’re going to run into these buildings, it’s going to be a shit show. and you’re going to spend the next 10 months of your life standing in a pile of poison and remains, and it’s going to haunt you, and your government is going to make you fight to keep your family from going bankrupt while you treat whatever it is that you got from doing this, would you do it again?' I would just almost guarantee they’d all go 'Yup.' Not even a question." -- Jon Stewart (credit:Michael McAuliff)
Kenny Anderson and Ray Pfeifer at Mitch McConnell's office.(07 of10)
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"$350 billion in corporate tax cuts, permanent, and they were busting these guys’ balls for a 'pay-for.' I’ll never forget in that hallway, Rob Portman going, 'Hey, me, I’m a numbers guy.' Really? Well, wouldn’t a numbers guy go, 'Oh $350 billion? Oh yeah, OK, we don’t need that, you should give it to those guys. That’s easy. Done." (credit:Michael McAuliff)
Jon Stewart on Capitol Hill(10 of10)
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